{"id":3644,"date":"2021-01-31T01:34:06","date_gmt":"2021-01-31T01:34:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/?p=3644"},"modified":"2025-07-25T10:46:49","modified_gmt":"2025-07-25T10:46:49","slug":"rfi-hunting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/?p=3644","title":{"rendered":"RFI Hunting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today, as HAM radio operators, we are constantly fighting against man-made noise. We could say that RFI(y) kills our hobby and also takes the fun out of it if we have a QSO on a certain band or frequency where QRM is more common than rare. Because of this so-called Man Made Noise I have developed a new sport, the so-called RFI Hunting . Many people are going for walks with their dogs, birdwatching or doing something else during this pandemic\u2026 But when I leave home, I don&#8217;t take my dog or binoculars outside, I take my RFI Hunting Tools. In this case the <span class=\"VIiyi\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"4\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.icomeurope.com\/en\/product\/ic-705\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IC-705<\/a><\/span><\/strong> <\/span><\/span> with an active <span class=\"VIiyi\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"4\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.communicationworld.nl\/antenne\/loop-antenne\/megaloop-mla-30-plus.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">magnetic loop MLA-30<\/a><\/strong><\/span><strong> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">+<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/span> powered by a <span class=\"VIiyi\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"4\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.conrad.nl\/p\/ansmann-4ah-powerbank-lipo-4000-mah-1700-0110-2227114?WT.mc_id=gshop&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=surfaces&amp;utm_term=2227114&amp;utm_content=free-google-shopping-clicks&amp;utm_campaign=shopping-feed&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqdDmnNS58AIVxhkGAB0MyQ_iEAQYAiABEgKOHfD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;tid=10444794716_104442946035_pla-1180463480524_pla-2227114&amp;WT.srch=1&amp;vat=true&amp;insert_kz=8J\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">4000 mAh Powerbank<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span> and an <span class=\"VIiyi\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"4\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.eleshop.nl\/rf-explorer-wsub1g-plus-slim.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RF Explorer spectrum analyzer<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3648\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-300x142.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"651\" height=\"308\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-300x142.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-1536x727.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-2048x969.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-768x363.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210111-WA0028-1024x485.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Pic 1: MLA-30+ Active Magnetic loop, IC-705 and Carry bag<\/em><\/p>\n<p>During my frequent walks through my neighborhood, I try to locate the location and pinpoint exactly where the RFI is coming from. Last year (2020) I managed to find 4 different RFI sources and made some new friends in the process. Think of LED garden lighting, a Micro-controlled Powerbox and more. With all the neighbors where I found the RFI source, I had a nice and friendly chat and explained what RFI is, what the problems are, what causes the RFI, etc&#8230;! I think we all have similar experiences as HAMS&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The last man-made noise I encountered was with my new neighbors moving in early this year (2021) because right after they moved in I start having problems at 40 meters where I couldn&#8217;t hear anything due to the high noise level caused by RFI (see photo 2)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3653\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-300x142.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"651\" height=\"308\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-300x142.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-1536x727.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-2048x969.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-768x363.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210110_182950-1024x485.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Pic 2: Mand made Noise: RFI of 5\/9+ 24\/7 across the whole 40mtr band\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>After using my RFI Hunting tools, I manage to find the culprit. Apparently my new neighbours weren&#8217;t using the Cable provider for their TV, IT and Phone like my former neighbours had, but instead were using the\u00a0 National Telecom provider. This meant that their modem went through the Wall socket Telecom infrastructure(ISRA) instead of the Cable Antenna infrastructure. At that specific ISRA I measured &#8211; 33dbm (5\/9 + 40db) so the interference had to come from there. Just before Christmas I was lucky enough to come in contact with &#8220;THE&#8221; Techical Guru of that specific National Telecom provider about another matter. So after I found this specific RFI, I phoned him and kindly asked if he could see anything on my neighbor&#8217;s infrastructure as these telecom and cable providers nowadays can track all of our interaction remotely through their infrastructure network. About 1 hour later he called me back and told me he already installed some digital notches on my neighbour&#8217;s profile and Eureka, the problem was gone (see pic 3)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3651\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-300x142.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"651\" height=\"308\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-300x142.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-1536x727.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-2048x969.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-768x363.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/20210111_161740-1024x485.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Pic 3: You can clearly see the 40mtr band being Notch out as the Notch start at 6.926 &#8211; 7.274 mHz<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But after this &#8220;Eureka&#8221; moment the story was not over as I still had RFI outside the 40 mtr HAM band which prevented me from listening to the Broadcast band due to the high noise level 24\/7. By looking further into my neighbor&#8217;s infrastructure, the Technical Guru saw that their particular internal infrastructure had a Bridgestep inline. This parallel line may have existed as a 2nd telephone line elsewhere in the house in the past, but was no longer in use. That meant that the National Telecom provider would make an appointment to remove the Bridgestep. A few days later, when the Field engineer opened the ISRA outlet, they found a sort of &#8220;MacGyver&#8221; solution of a few crossed wires. (see pic 4) By disconnecting the Bridgestep and connecting the ISRA socket as it should, everything was fine and the RFI was completely gone.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3650\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210115-WA0012-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"448\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210115-WA0012-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210115-WA0012-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210115-WA0012-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/IMG-20210115-WA0012.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Pic 4 Bridgestep<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"VIiyi\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"0\">After this strange ordeal and <strong>fortunately knowing the right people within the National Telecom provider<\/strong>, I was lucky enough to solve this problem.<\/span> <span class=\"JLqJ4b ChMk0b\" data-language-for-alternatives=\"en\" data-language-to-translate-into=\"nl\" data-phrase-index=\"1\">So another RFI Hunt was found and resolved. Currently we already are working on the next RFI issue within my neighbourhood &#8230;.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>RFI Hunting is a never ending story, but it is worth going down this road as you will meet new interesting people in the process and at the same time learn people about RFI and the interesting world of HAM Radio.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to know more of my previous experiences please do not hesitate to drop me an email at roma-dx@ziggo.nl<span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span>or just use the <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pb5x.com\/?page_id=100\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CONTACT<\/a><\/span><\/strong> form on this webpage<\/p>\n<p>73 Roberto PB5X<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Today, as HAM radio operators, we are constantly fighting against man-made noise. 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